Broadcast News
31/10/2012
Cloud Computing – The Hype, The Problems, The Dangers And The Doubts
No media cloud on the immediate horizon: George Jarrett talks to industry contacts about the problems that have to be resolved before broadcasters and post houses will trust the cloud
Back in the 1960’s I used to smoke Passing Cloud cigarettes. I also sang along to ‘Get off of My Cloud’ by the Rolling Stones, and both of those memories dominated a flippant approach to the cloud.
But all of a sudden we have wall-to-wall conferences, and dozens of vendors inviting you to hold their hand as you step nervously out onto Cumulus Nimbus, perhaps buoyed by some experience of using Google Docs. It is time to take the cloud seriously, but first we have to identify the thorny technological and green issues that still have to be addressed, and to identify some of the best connections for seeking ongoing help.
One of the very best is the EBU, which is staging Out of the Cloud, into the Light (November 20-21).
The first interview features one of the main figures behind the production of this important event, and later in the piece, the DTG unveils its approach to the cloud. Like HD when it emerged, cloud computing has a lot of formations to come.
Chris Chambers of BBC Future Media/EBU - Head of Media Network Integration Laboratory, R&D South
Some people are desperate for a business case, and are trying to sell existing technology under a new buzz banner. Does he agree?
“Yes; so desperate that they ignore a number of fundamental issues when trying to utilize existing technology and current workflows, and are endangering any real value,” he said.
Surely people with uncompressed files will balk at paying for the bandwidth costs both ways, and for the CPU and the storage on top. “A big yes,” said Chambers. “It is not just uncompressed media which is a particular issue for us, but ‘big data’ in general. Cloud solutions are hyped often as a stand alone solution that will "solve all your problems" without even addressing the need to bolster the infrastructure and the potentially very significant cost this will bring to any workable outcomes.
“The communities addressing cloud are not thinking holistically enough about what they are doing, and where cloud will bring benefits overall,” he added. “We are looking at using an open source dashboard, - we are currently studying Open Stack - and then requiring any potential cloud products to use that as a basic API even if they produce a proprietary management interface too. “We must be able to specify best practice and have some common deployment and management points otherwise it will be chaos and virtually impossible to manage particularly in large organisations,” he added. “Unless of cause it all comes from a single source; but then the resulting business risks could be massive.”
The biggest issue for broadcasters going for the cloud is finding the right business model surely? “Yes. However, the problem is that making great media is not like making baked bean tins. There is more than one way of supporting the creative processes of producing media and while few if any, with the possible exception of the film industry, could afford an unrestricted approach to media creation, there needs to be a range of options to allow people to work in varied ways and be creative,” said Chambers. “Also, depending on each remit and topography, broadcasters will quite likely need slightly differing business models, and the workflows they support. There is not a single answer so we all need to understand our business and workflow requirements and understand that if we restrict how our people work, we will end of with "baked bean tin" content, just with a different label.”
Cloud could fall foul of carbon taxes if governments examine its green credentials. “Until we improve the efficiency of network transport protocols, particularly at 40G and above, find a drastically different approach to storage structures, and have a service demand management structure that goes from the protonic layer to the service API, cloud will fall foul of any green credentials,” said Chambers. “Moving interactive media with an ever-expanding quality and feature profile on IT networks, storage and broadband is several orders of magnitude more inefficient in energy terms than more traditional models of delivery,” he added. “If we are going to deliver the future without using several cities worth of energy, we have very serious work to do!”
Bruce Devlin, CTO of Amberfin
“In ten years’ time everything will be cloud based. Now there are only two companies using Amberfin technology in the cloud, so I am looking at business models so we can remain successful and not be a fall guy,” he said. “The problem is that there is an enormous amount of marketing concerning cloud computing. It could be the best thing or the worst thing for you.
“Imagine you are a small or medium-sized media owner with diverse sets of customers trying to get at your content. The sensible thing is to put it with Amazon, run the distribution software in the cloud, and rely on the Amazon background to do all the delivery,” he added. “Because it is not a massive archive, it is not a heavy cost. And your customers are paying you on a transactional basis. You would pay Amazon on a transactions based deal for the CPU, the network bandwidth, and the storage. You could calculate what each transaction would return and so cloud would make business sense to you.
“But it makes no sense at all presently to the top tier broadcaster or filmmaker, because they have absolute paranoia about the security of their uncompressed files,” he continued. “And then there is the cost of getting into the cloud: you pay the bandwidth costs both ways, and you pay for the CPU and your storage, so for most people in that area it makes more sense to keep the infrastructure in house. Downstream, cloud might make more sense.”
Then there is grinding the top off the peak – meaning peak demand prior to Christmas and the summer season.
“There is a sensible hybrid model – big enough internally to handle most demand, plus cloud capacity. Most broadcasters will end up doing this, just renting kit for the peaks,” said Devlin.
“But it is no good halving costs if it means taking a terrible risk,” he added. “The biggest issue for broadcasters going for the cloud is finding the right business model and making it work for everyone across five or six layers of corporate involvement.
“There are a gazillion cloud applications, but no best practise – not even a dashboard to view how well the cloud is performing,” he added. “Data centres do go down, and 99.99% reliability will not impress broadcasters.”
Back in the 1960’s I used to smoke Passing Cloud cigarettes. I also sang along to ‘Get off of My Cloud’ by the Rolling Stones, and both of those memories dominated a flippant approach to the cloud.
But all of a sudden we have wall-to-wall conferences, and dozens of vendors inviting you to hold their hand as you step nervously out onto Cumulus Nimbus, perhaps buoyed by some experience of using Google Docs. It is time to take the cloud seriously, but first we have to identify the thorny technological and green issues that still have to be addressed, and to identify some of the best connections for seeking ongoing help.
One of the very best is the EBU, which is staging Out of the Cloud, into the Light (November 20-21).
The first interview features one of the main figures behind the production of this important event, and later in the piece, the DTG unveils its approach to the cloud. Like HD when it emerged, cloud computing has a lot of formations to come.
Chris Chambers of BBC Future Media/EBU - Head of Media Network Integration Laboratory, R&D South
Some people are desperate for a business case, and are trying to sell existing technology under a new buzz banner. Does he agree?
“Yes; so desperate that they ignore a number of fundamental issues when trying to utilize existing technology and current workflows, and are endangering any real value,” he said.
Surely people with uncompressed files will balk at paying for the bandwidth costs both ways, and for the CPU and the storage on top. “A big yes,” said Chambers. “It is not just uncompressed media which is a particular issue for us, but ‘big data’ in general. Cloud solutions are hyped often as a stand alone solution that will "solve all your problems" without even addressing the need to bolster the infrastructure and the potentially very significant cost this will bring to any workable outcomes.
“The communities addressing cloud are not thinking holistically enough about what they are doing, and where cloud will bring benefits overall,” he added. “We are looking at using an open source dashboard, - we are currently studying Open Stack - and then requiring any potential cloud products to use that as a basic API even if they produce a proprietary management interface too. “We must be able to specify best practice and have some common deployment and management points otherwise it will be chaos and virtually impossible to manage particularly in large organisations,” he added. “Unless of cause it all comes from a single source; but then the resulting business risks could be massive.”
The biggest issue for broadcasters going for the cloud is finding the right business model surely? “Yes. However, the problem is that making great media is not like making baked bean tins. There is more than one way of supporting the creative processes of producing media and while few if any, with the possible exception of the film industry, could afford an unrestricted approach to media creation, there needs to be a range of options to allow people to work in varied ways and be creative,” said Chambers. “Also, depending on each remit and topography, broadcasters will quite likely need slightly differing business models, and the workflows they support. There is not a single answer so we all need to understand our business and workflow requirements and understand that if we restrict how our people work, we will end of with "baked bean tin" content, just with a different label.”
Cloud could fall foul of carbon taxes if governments examine its green credentials. “Until we improve the efficiency of network transport protocols, particularly at 40G and above, find a drastically different approach to storage structures, and have a service demand management structure that goes from the protonic layer to the service API, cloud will fall foul of any green credentials,” said Chambers. “Moving interactive media with an ever-expanding quality and feature profile on IT networks, storage and broadband is several orders of magnitude more inefficient in energy terms than more traditional models of delivery,” he added. “If we are going to deliver the future without using several cities worth of energy, we have very serious work to do!”
Bruce Devlin, CTO of Amberfin
“In ten years’ time everything will be cloud based. Now there are only two companies using Amberfin technology in the cloud, so I am looking at business models so we can remain successful and not be a fall guy,” he said. “The problem is that there is an enormous amount of marketing concerning cloud computing. It could be the best thing or the worst thing for you.
“Imagine you are a small or medium-sized media owner with diverse sets of customers trying to get at your content. The sensible thing is to put it with Amazon, run the distribution software in the cloud, and rely on the Amazon background to do all the delivery,” he added. “Because it is not a massive archive, it is not a heavy cost. And your customers are paying you on a transactional basis. You would pay Amazon on a transactions based deal for the CPU, the network bandwidth, and the storage. You could calculate what each transaction would return and so cloud would make business sense to you.
“But it makes no sense at all presently to the top tier broadcaster or filmmaker, because they have absolute paranoia about the security of their uncompressed files,” he continued. “And then there is the cost of getting into the cloud: you pay the bandwidth costs both ways, and you pay for the CPU and your storage, so for most people in that area it makes more sense to keep the infrastructure in house. Downstream, cloud might make more sense.”
Then there is grinding the top off the peak – meaning peak demand prior to Christmas and the summer season.
“There is a sensible hybrid model – big enough internally to handle most demand, plus cloud capacity. Most broadcasters will end up doing this, just renting kit for the peaks,” said Devlin.
“But it is no good halving costs if it means taking a terrible risk,” he added. “The biggest issue for broadcasters going for the cloud is finding the right business model and making it work for everyone across five or six layers of corporate involvement.
“There are a gazillion cloud applications, but no best practise – not even a dashboard to view how well the cloud is performing,” he added. “Data centres do go down, and 99.99% reliability will not impress broadcasters.”
Top Related Stories
Click here for the latest broadcast news stories.
08/06/2018
The Crucial Values Of A Cloud Native Architecture
After an NAB that was riddled with cloud native technology, and people saw the huge merits of micro services plus the massive potential of AI, it was
The Crucial Values Of A Cloud Native Architecture
After an NAB that was riddled with cloud native technology, and people saw the huge merits of micro services plus the massive potential of AI, it was
07/06/2018
Cloud Is No Broadcast Cure All
Telestream's new CMO, Chris Osika, explains the company's position on cloud deployments within the broadcast industry. In broadcasting, cloud-based wo
Cloud Is No Broadcast Cure All
Telestream's new CMO, Chris Osika, explains the company's position on cloud deployments within the broadcast industry. In broadcasting, cloud-based wo
16/09/2019
Qvest Media Brings Trend-Setting Solutions To IBC
Qvest Media has made a statement at this year's IBC Show with demonstrations around its popular lineup of cloud solutions. Demonstrating on Stand 3.B4
Qvest Media Brings Trend-Setting Solutions To IBC
Qvest Media has made a statement at this year's IBC Show with demonstrations around its popular lineup of cloud solutions. Demonstrating on Stand 3.B4
31/01/2018
Powering Cloud-Based Production With Avid MediaCentral
Extending media production to the cloud drives seamless collaboration, widespread efficiencies and streamlines internal operations. By Craig Dwyer – S
Powering Cloud-Based Production With Avid MediaCentral
Extending media production to the cloud drives seamless collaboration, widespread efficiencies and streamlines internal operations. By Craig Dwyer – S
16/11/2017
Avid Supports Al Jazeera Media Network On Its Journey To The Cloud
With content distribution and consumption, and audience engagement expanding exponentially, media organizations have been forced to adapt to the rapid
Avid Supports Al Jazeera Media Network On Its Journey To The Cloud
With content distribution and consumption, and audience engagement expanding exponentially, media organizations have been forced to adapt to the rapid
03/02/2015
Quantum Integrates Cloud Into Multi-Tier Storage
Quantum has unveiled three new solutions to integrate the cloud into multi-tier, hybrid storage architectures for demanding data workloads. The new Q-
Quantum Integrates Cloud Into Multi-Tier Storage
Quantum has unveiled three new solutions to integrate the cloud into multi-tier, hybrid storage architectures for demanding data workloads. The new Q-
13/08/2018
Qvest Media To Unveil Qvest.Cloud At IBC
Qvest Media is to unveil its latest development, Qvest.Cloud, at the upcoming IBC show in Amsterdam, 14-18 September. The company will demonstrate its
Qvest Media To Unveil Qvest.Cloud At IBC
Qvest Media is to unveil its latest development, Qvest.Cloud, at the upcoming IBC show in Amsterdam, 14-18 September. The company will demonstrate its
14/04/2014
Cloud Media Services: Adopting The Cloud And Making It Work
Richard Welsh, SMPTE International Governor and CEO at Sundog Media Toolkit, discusses the ever-evolving landscape of content-delivery. The biggest ap
Cloud Media Services: Adopting The Cloud And Making It Work
Richard Welsh, SMPTE International Governor and CEO at Sundog Media Toolkit, discusses the ever-evolving landscape of content-delivery. The biggest ap
07/06/2018
DPP Reveals The Secrets Of Building A Media Cloud
The Digital Production Partnership (DPP) has published a new report about creating ideal cloud environments for media. In 'Building the Media Cloud' D
DPP Reveals The Secrets Of Building A Media Cloud
The Digital Production Partnership (DPP) has published a new report about creating ideal cloud environments for media. In 'Building the Media Cloud' D
27/02/2019
Telestream To Unveil Vantage Cloud Port At NAB
Telestream® is to unveil its Vantage Cloud Port, a new approach to media processing workflows whether in the cloud, on premises or both at NAB 2019 on
Telestream To Unveil Vantage Cloud Port At NAB
Telestream® is to unveil its Vantage Cloud Port, a new approach to media processing workflows whether in the cloud, on premises or both at NAB 2019 on
21/08/2017
IBC2017: At The Core Of Global Media And Digital Industry Trends
With its Digital Tech Hub, Qvest Media is encouraging the exchange of global trends between the media and broadcasting industry at this year's IBC Sho
IBC2017: At The Core Of Global Media And Digital Industry Trends
With its Digital Tech Hub, Qvest Media is encouraging the exchange of global trends between the media and broadcasting industry at this year's IBC Sho
08/04/2014
Harmonic Partners With Encoding.com
Harmonic has teamed up with Encoding.com, the world's largest video transcoding service, to offer a highly flexible, cloud-based transcoding service t
Harmonic Partners With Encoding.com
Harmonic has teamed up with Encoding.com, the world's largest video transcoding service, to offer a highly flexible, cloud-based transcoding service t
02/03/2020
Carousel Digital Signage Continues Partnership With BrightSign
Carousel Digital Signage continues its multi-year partnership with BrightSign with the integration of Carousel Cloud with BrightSign's BSN.cloud, a ne
Carousel Digital Signage Continues Partnership With BrightSign
Carousel Digital Signage continues its multi-year partnership with BrightSign with the integration of Carousel Cloud with BrightSign's BSN.cloud, a ne
19/05/2009
Signiant Content Distribution Management Software Integrates With EMC Atmos
At this year's EMC World in Orlando, Florida, Signiant is demonstrating how its Enterprise Content Movement solution manages the movement of unstructu
Signiant Content Distribution Management Software Integrates With EMC Atmos
At this year's EMC World in Orlando, Florida, Signiant is demonstrating how its Enterprise Content Movement solution manages the movement of unstructu
26/06/2013
Success For IBC Technology Booster Event
Day one of the IBC Technology Booster offered a unique, interactive insight on 'Floating Cloud Concepts for New Business' to a sell-out audience of el
Success For IBC Technology Booster Event
Day one of the IBC Technology Booster offered a unique, interactive insight on 'Floating Cloud Concepts for New Business' to a sell-out audience of el